Colonel Russell Williams, a decorated military pilot who had flown Canadian Forces VIP aircraft for Canadian dignitaries such as Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, the governor general, the prime minister, and others.

Colonel Russell Williams (born March 7, 1963) is a convicted murderer, rapist, and former Colonel in the Canadian Forces.

From July 2009 to his arrest in February 2010, he commanded Canadian Forces Base Trenton, a hub for air transport operations in Canada and abroad and the country’s largest and busiest airbase.

On February 8, 2010, he was relieved as the base commander at CFB Trenton due to criminal charges. He was formally charged by the Crown Attorney pursuant to provisions set forth in the Criminal Code of Canada on evidence collected by the Ontario Provincial Police with two counts of first-degree murder along with two counts of forcible confinement and two counts of breaking and entering and sexual assault; another 82 charges relating to breaking and entry were subsequently added.

On October 22, 2010, Williams was stripped of his commission, ranks, and awards by the Governor General of Canada on the recommendation of the Chief of the Defence Staff. His severance pay was terminated and the salary he received following his arrest was seized, although he is still entitled to a pension. Subsequent to his conviction, his uniform was burned, his medals were destroyed and his vehicle crushed and scrapped.

Williams was born in Bromsgrove, England, to Cedric David Williams and Christine Nonie Williams (née Chivers). His family immigrated to Canada, where they moved to Chalk River, Ontario. His father worked at Chalk River Laboratories, Canada’s premier nuclear research laboratory.

After relocating to Chalk River, the Williams family met another family, the Sovkas, and they became good friends. The families would spend a lot of time together. Williams’ parents divorced when he was six years old and soon after, his father married Mrs. Sovkas and then his mother, married Mr. Sovka. During this time Williams took on the name Sovka from his stepfather Dr. Jerry Sovka, and moved again to Scarborough, Ontario. He later went back and took his old last name. While in the Scarborough Bluffs area, Williams began high school at Toronto’s Birchmount Collegiate, but finished at Upper Canada College. He delivered The Globe and Mail newspaper and learned piano or trumpet. By 1979 his family had moved to South Korea, where Sovka was overseeing another reactor project. Williams completed his final two years of high school as a boarding student at Toronto’s Upper Canada College while his parents were in South Korea. In his final year in 1982, he was elected as one of two prefects for his boarding house, and reported to his house steward, Andrew Saxton, now the Conservative Member of Parliament for North Vancouver.

Birchmount Park Collegiate Yearbook photo of Russell Williams.

On June 1, 1991 he married Mary Elizabeth Harriman, who is an associate director of the Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada. According to Canadian Defence Department Williams biography, Williams is a keen photographer, fisherman and runner, and he and his wife Mary Elizabeth are also avid golfers.

Russell Williams with his wife Mary Elizabeth Harriman.

The couple moved to Orleans, a suburb of Ottawa in July 2006.

Williams’ wife has since December 2010 started the process of filing for divorce together with a request to have any of her financial and medical information sealed by the court.

Williams was regarded as a model military man over the course of his 23-year career. He enrolled in the Canadian Forces in 1987 after graduating from the University of Toronto with an economics and political science degree where another Canadian notorious murderer, Paul Bernardo, was coincidentally two academic years ahead of him.  His colleagues at the University stated that he had a relationship and after that break up, he hadn’t been in a relationship according to their knowledge. They remembered that he had enjoyed waiting for hours in a closet for his roommate to scare him and that they hadn’t given importance to that behavior. 

Jessica Lloyd, 27, had vanished on January 28, 2010. Investigators identified distinctive tire tracks left in snow near her home. One week after her disappearance, the Ontario Provincial Police conducted an extensive canvassing of all motorists using the highway near her home from 7 pm on February 4, 2010, to 6 am on the following day, looking for the unusual tire treads. Williams was driving his Pathfinder that day – rather than the BMW he usually drove – and an officer noticed the resemblance of his tire treads. These were subsequently matched to the treads near Lloyd’s home.

On February 7, 2010, the CFB Trenton base commander, Russell Williams, was at his newly built home in Ottawa, where his wife lived full-time and he lived part-time, when he was called by the OPP in Ottawa and asked to come in for questioning. During the 10-hour interview he confessed to the numerous crimes of which he was later convicted. Before he confessed, he had asked them to protect his wife from media.  Detective Sergeant Jim Smyth gained worldwide popularity because of the way he interrogated Colonel Russell. Besides being called master interrogator, his skillful approach, patience – overall the way he conducted the interrogation, especially with someone who is trained to resist stress is really admirable and truly masterful interrogation.

He also told police where they could find evidence, including hidden keepsakes, inside the Ottawa home. The couple had moved to a new house two months before he was interrogated by police. He told Detective Sergeant Jim Smyth where police could find the thousands of images he took of Lloyd and Comeau and the two women he sexually assaulted. He then identified on a map where he dumped Lloyd’s body. A video of the interrogation was made available to the public and was posted online by several newspapers and on YouTube.

Detective Sergeant Jim Smyth interrogates Colonel Russell Williams. Masterful interrogation.

Early the next morning Williams led investigators to the woman’s body in a secluded area on Cary Road, about 13 minutes away from where he lived. Williams was also charged in the death of Corporal Marie-France Comeau, a 37-year-old military flight attendant based at CFB Trenton, who had been found dead inside her home in late November 2009. After sexually assaulting them, took picture of them, victims were asphyxiated.

Victims: Corporal Marie-France Comeau and Jessica Lloyd

In the confession, Williams gave details of his crimes, including the sexual assaults in Tweed and 82 break-ins and thefts. Some of them occurred in Ottawa homes within walking distance of his Orleans, Ontario home where he lived with his wife. Other break-ins and thefts occurred in Belleville, and in Tweed, where the couple had had a cottage since 2004.

Along with the murder charges, Williams was charged with breaking and entering, forcible confinement, and the sexual assault of two other women in connection with two separate home invasions near Tweed, Ontario in September 2009. According to reports, the women had been bound in their homes and the attacker had taken photos of them.

Williams was arraigned and remanded into custody on Monday, February 8, 2010. The Canadian Forces announced that day that an interim commander would soon be appointed to replace him and removed his biography from the Department of National Defence website the following day.

A week after his arrest, investigators reported that, along with hidden keepsakes and other evidence they had found in his home, they had matched a print from one of the homicide scenes to his boot.

In the searches of his Ottawa home, police discovered stolen lingerie that
was neatly stored, catalogued, and concealed.

In addition to the four primary incidents, the investigation into Williams includes probes into 48 cases of theft of women’s underwear dating back to 2006.

In April 2010, Williams was placed on suicide watch after he tried to kill himself by wedging a stuffed cardboard toilet paper roll down his throat.

On October 18, 2010 Williams pleaded guilty to all charges.

Excerpts of the confession were shown in court at Williams’ sentencing hearing on October 20, 2010. The interview conducted by Sergeant Jim Smyth started at 3 p.m. and by 7:45 p.m. he was describing his crimes. The interrogation lasted approximately ten hours.

On the first day of Williams’ trial and guilty plea, details emerged of other sexual assaults he committed, including that of a new mother who was wakened with a blow to the head while she and her baby were asleep in her house. The first day of trial revealed that Williams also had pedophiliac tendencies, stealing underwear of girls as young as nine years old. He made 82 fetish-related home invasions and attempted break-ins between September 2007 and November 2009.

Williams kept an extensive collection of stolen women’s lingerie.

Williams progressed from break-ins to sexual assaults with no penetration to rape and murder. He kept detailed track of police reports of the crimes he was committing, logged his crimes, kept photos and videos and even left notes and messages for his victims. In a break-in into the bedroom of a 12-year-old, he left a message in her computer saying: “Merci” (“Thank you” in French). He took thousands of pictures of his crimes and kept the photos on his computer.

He took thousands of pictures of his crimes and kept the photos on his computer. Crown Attorney Robert Morrison presented numerous pictures of Williams dressed in the very underwear and bras he had stolen, frequently masturbating while lying on the beds of his victims.

Ontario Superior Court Justice Robert F. Scott sentenced Williams on October 22, 2010, to two concurrent terms of life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years. He was sentenced to two 10-year sentences for other sexual assaults, two 10-year sentences for forcible confinement and 82 one-year sentences for burglary; all the sentences will be served concurrently at Kingston Penitentiary.

Colonel Russell Williams took pictures in stolen underwear.
Colonel Russell Williams took pictures in stolen lingerie.

Dr. Michael Stone: ‘’Well I think I was staring at the the computer, the Internet and the News came across, that this Air Force Colonel who had sometimes been honored with the task of flown Queen Elizabeth from London to Canada, was now arrested for a couple rape/murders. And for long spell going back to around 2007, if not before, of stealing lingerie from the homes of girls and young women and, furthermore taking which was unique, taking pictures of himself doing these murders and so on, as a crossdressing, so that he would appear like a man – woman with bra and panties, at the same time that he was performing these monstrous acts.’’

Interviewer: ‘’Now sir, indeed, you call them monstrous acts. You know this begs a question. How does a man with such inclinations, rise to such a rank and such a prestige in a military. You would think that there would be screening enough to go along with his rise to a Colonel and, of course, he’s right beside the Queen, the Prime Minister, he’s flied around and all sorts of dignitary, to weed out someone like this. What happened?

Dr. Michael Stone: ‘’Well, first of all I don’t think that there was much weeding that could be done because for a long time until he was perhaps in his late 30s, early 40s, he wasn’t known to have done these sorts of things. He may have done crossdressing in the privacy of his own home. I don’t think that people, men I should say, who crossdressing start doing so at the age of 40. I think it’s something that goes back often times to childhood, but we don’t know that. But the point is nobody would know to ask him during his let’s say initial interviews, as he’s being vetted, you know, for the Air Force and, by the way, ‘do you like to walk around in ladies shoes and and wear bra and panties?’ I mean who the hell would ask that? So we’re making fun but I understand what you’re saying. So they wouldn’t know to ask and if they did, he would say ‘who me?!’ So, it would only be when he began to lose control self-control in the last few years that these sorts of habits would become known. So here was somebody who was different from the more typical serial killer who was really a very emotionally, obviously, disturbed kind of guy. He was a very, very tight meticulous, rigid obsessional, self-controlled military guy, but not somebody who was was blatantly psychopathic like Ted Bundy or some of the more iconic ones, or Paul Bernardo for that matter. He’s a in the Air Force, he would fly under the radar of Psychopathology and criminal behavior.

Interviewer: ‘’Was he a ticking time bomb? Is it common for men and, is it gender specific once they hit their 40s that these urges, I don’t know what else to call them, are released?

Dr. Stone: ‘’I don’t think so. I think in retrospect, we could make a case that he was a bit of a ticking time bomb. I’m assuming that like most transvestite men that there could even be a genetic or hereditary component, something that would manifest itself in childhood. A lot of the serial killers, I’ve profiled a many serial killers from true crime biographies, these thick books, you get in the True Crime section of your

Bookstore, where there’s a whole biography of rather than just a newspaper sketch or a magazine sketch. I’ve already looked at 164 serial killers. I’ve identified 10 including Colonel Williams or Mr. Williams now who are transvestites, but many of them clearly began their careers as crossdressers when they were children, such as Jerry Brudos in Oregon, who was scolded viciously by his mom for walking around in her shoes and she shamed him for that.

Interviewers: ‘’So can I interrupt you right there, sir. There’s a lot of transvestites around. Is this something that people should fear as perhaps a foundation for a perversion later on and, if a mom or dad does come across their trial dressing in the opposite gender clothes, how should they respond to?

Dr. Stone: ‘’That’s a difficult question. I don’t think they should encourage it. I don’t think there’s much they can do to discourage it. They might want to encourage the a boy to get some kind of psychiatric help, maybe it’s also tied into some emotional problems that could be helped or rectified, such that he would have less of that tendency, but in the main I think it’s very difficult to really correct or annihilate a perversion of that sort, or whichever, whether it be voyerism or exhibitionism those are not easy to fix. But it also is important to keep in mind that the percentage of transvestites, for example, who do violent acts is, I think, quite small so that when you get somebody like Colonel Williams who’s made national and if not International headlines for vicious crimes, rape and murder and prolonged torture of the women, before before he killed, it sort of, gives transvestites a bad name, so to speak. Whereas, there’s a great many transvestites who go through their life and don’t hurt anybody. It’s not something that is clearly associated with violent crime

Interviewer: ‘’Is there cases where women actually dress up, sir, as men as well, in that respect, or is it primarily men that dress as women?

Dr. Michael Stone: ‘I think there are more men that dress as women than there are women that dress as men although, in the 18th century there are a number of famous authoresses who because of the prejudice against women being known as authors there would be a tendency for the women to dress as men, get recognized as men in order to increase the likelihood that their works would be respected.

Interviewer: ‘’Sir, let’s go back now to transvestites and, I don’t mean transvestites, I mean the perversion that Russell Williams took it to. Is that genetics? Now I when I was doing research here, sir, I  was reading some of your book and some of the studies that you’ve done and you say there is a hereditary component. Now is that genetics or is that behavior?

Dr. Stone: ‘’Well, I think there’s a genetic component. In this sense I think that men who are very fixedly crossdressers have an ambiguous sexuality. In other words, as a matter of fact some of the serial killers, the 10 serial killers that I have  studied – their biographies – who were crossdressers. Several of about three or four of them were openly gay, one was bisexual. What we’re beginning to learn in the last 10 years is that uh transvestitism and particularly pedophilia are inborn. I’ll get to that in a minute. More than half of the 10 serial killers that I have tracked who are crossdressers also are pedophiles and Russell Williams also, don’t forget, went after girls. He has the pedophilia and he was also found to have a ‘’kitty porn’’ on his computer which is the one thing that he was deeply ashamed of. So we know now, which we didn’t know before, from studies of Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (FMRI), that there are peculiarities in the emotional part of the brain, the so-called limbic system and the frontal lobes that mediate and finally become the final arbiter of what we end up doing that are functioning in an abnormal way in pedophiles. There is something, probably hereditary isn’t quite the right word, that there’s something that they’re inborn. That doesn’t mean that they would necessarily, if they had kids, that the children would be at risk for the same condition but there’s something in the wiring as, they’re born, maybe because of some peculiarity in what goes on during the mother’s pregnancy, whatever that makes them have the tendency to crossdressing and pedophilia. So therefore, it isn’t just because they were exposed to peculiarities in the home they saw, which is what we used to think. There’s something of inborn tendency that is being expressed in these men

Colonel Russell Williams took pictures in stolen lingerie.

Michael H. Stone, American psychiatrist and Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York City on Russell Williams.

Dr. Michael Stone: ‘’Well I think I was staring at the the computer, the Internet and the News came across, that this Air Force Colonel who had sometimes been honored with the task of flown Queen Elizabeth from London to Canada, was now arrested for a couple rape/murders. And for long spell going back to around 2007, if not before, of stealing lingerie from the homes of girls and young women and, furthermore taking which was unique, taking pictures of himself doing these murders and so on, as a crossdressing, so that he would appear like a man – woman with bra and panties, at the same time that he was performing these monstrous acts.’’

Interviewer: ‘’Now sir, indeed, you call them monstrous acts. You know this begs a question. How does a man with such inclinations, rise to such a rank and such a prestige in a military. You would think that there would be screening enough to go along with his rise to a Colonel and, of course, he’s right beside the Queen, the Prime Minister, he’s flied around and all sorts of dignitary, to weed out someone like this. What happened?

Dr. Michael Stone: ‘’Well, first of all I don’t think that there was much weeding that could be done because for a long time until he was perhaps in his late 30s, early 40s, he wasn’t known to have done these sorts of things. He may have done crossdressing in the privacy of his own home. I don’t think that people, men I should say, who crossdressing start doing so at the age of 40. I think it’s something that goes back often times to childhood, but we don’t know that. But the point is nobody would know to ask him during his let’s say initial interviews, as he’s being vetted, you know, for the Air Force and, by the way, ‘do you like to walk around in ladies shoes and and wear bra and panties?’ I mean who the hell would ask that? So we’re making fun but I understand what you’re saying. So they wouldn’t know to ask and if they did, he would say ‘who me?!’ So, it would only be when he began to lose control self-control in the last few years that these sorts of habits would become known. So here was somebody who was different from the more typical serial killer who was really a very emotionally, obviously, disturbed kind of guy. He was a very, very tight meticulous, rigid obsessional, self-controlled military guy, but not somebody who was was blatantly psychopathic like Ted Bundy or some of the more iconic ones, or Paul Bernardo for that matter. He’s a in the Air Force, he would fly under the radar of Psychopathology and criminal behavior.

Interviewer: ‘’Was he a ticking time bomb? Is it common for men and, is it gender specific once they hit their 40s that these urges, I don’t know what else to call them, are released?

Dr. Stone: ‘’I don’t think so. I think in retrospect, we could make a case that he was a bit of a ticking time bomb. I’m assuming that like most transvestite men that there could even be a genetic or hereditary component, something that would manifest itself in childhood. A lot of the serial killers, I’ve profiled a many serial killers from true crime biographies, these thick books, you get in the True Crime section of your

Bookstore, where there’s a whole biography of rather than just a newspaper sketch or a magazine sketch. I’ve already looked at 164 serial killers. I’ve identified 10 including Colonel Williams or Mr. Williams now who are transvestites, but many of them clearly began their careers as crossdressers when they were children, such as Jerry Brudos in Oregon, who was scolded viciously by his mom for walking around in her shoes and she shamed him for that.

Interviewers: ‘’So can I interrupt you right there, sir. There’s a lot of transvestites around. Is this something that people should fear as perhaps a foundation for a perversion later on and, if a mom or dad does come across their trial dressing in the opposite gender clothes, how should they respond to?

Dr. Stone: ‘’That’s a difficult question. I don’t think they should encourage it. I don’t think there’s much they can do to discourage it. They might want to encourage the a boy to get some kind of psychiatric help, maybe it’s also tied into some emotional problems that could be helped or rectified, such that he would have less of that tendency, but in the main I think it’s very difficult to really correct or annihilate a perversion of that sort, or whichever, whether it be voyerism or exhibitionism those are not easy to fix. But it also is important to keep in mind that the percentage of transvestites, for example, who do violent acts is, I think, quite small so that when you get somebody like Colonel Williams who’s made national and if not International headlines for vicious crimes, rape and murder and prolonged torture of the women, before before he killed, it sort of, gives transvestites a bad name, so to speak. Whereas, there’s a great many transvestites who go through their life and don’t hurt anybody. It’s not something that is clearly associated with violent crime

Interviewer: ‘’Is there cases where women actually dress up, sir, as men as well, in that respect, or is it primarily men that dress as women?

Dr. Michael Stone: ‘I think there are more men that dress as women than there are women that dress as men although, in the 18th century there are a number of famous authoresses who because of the prejudice against women being known as authors there would be a tendency for the women to dress as men, get recognized as men in order to increase the likelihood that their works would be respected.

Interviewer: ‘’Sir, let’s go back now to transvestites and, I don’t mean transvestites, I mean the perversion that Russell Williams took it to. Is that genetics? Now I when I was doing research here, sir, I  was reading some of your book and some of the studies that you’ve done and you say there is a hereditary component. Now is that genetics or is that behavior?

Dr. Stone: ‘’Well, I think there’s a genetic component. In this sense I think that men who are very fixedly crossdressers have an ambiguous sexuality. In other words, as a matter of fact some of the serial killers, the 10 serial killers that I have  studied – their biographies – who were crossdressers. Several of about three or four of them were openly gay, one was bisexual. What we’re beginning to learn in the last 10 years is that transvestitism and particularly pedophilia are inborn. I’ll get to that in a minute. More than half of the 10 serial killers that I have tracked who are crossdressers also are pedophiles and Russell Williams also, don’t forget, went after girls. He has the pedophilia and he was also found to have a ‘’kitty porn’’ on his computer which is the one thing that he was deeply ashamed of. So we know now, which we didn’t know before, from studies of Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (FMRI), that there are peculiarities in the emotional part of the brain, the so-called limbic system and the frontal lobes that mediate and finally become the final arbiter of what we end up doing that are functioning in an abnormal way in pedophiles. There is something, probably hereditary isn’t quite the right word, that there’s something that they’re inborn. That doesn’t mean that they would necessarily, if they had kids, that the children would be at risk for the same condition but there’s something in the wiring as, they’re born, maybe because of some peculiarity in what goes on during the mother’s pregnancy, whatever that makes them have the tendency to crossdressing and pedophilia. So therefore, it isn’t just because they were exposed to peculiarities in the home they saw, which is what we used to think. There’s something of inborn tendency that is being expressed in these men

Interviewer: ‘’Dr Stone, can we continue and go into what would cause Russell Williams to cross that line between. we know he broke into young girls’ rooms and he would masturbate on the bed, he would grab their panties and masturbate and take pictures of himself, what would would happen inside of him to make him transgress that line to murder?

Dr. Stone: ‘’Well, that’s one of the that’s the $64,000 question about Williams, really. Because he held himself together outwardly so well, for so long but here’s the thing, he had some peculiarities which, I think, some kind of constitutional and by that I mean either genetics or during the nine months of pregnancy something that he came out into the world with that. His younger brother Harvey did not come into the world with it, because don’t forget they both were raised in this rather odd family. I’ll maybe say something about that in a moment. But the younger brother is a doctor and as far as we know very well functioning guy, so Russell was this extremely tightly, rigid, meticulous guy who couldn’t really make friends easily with anybody, he didn’t talk much about himself to anyone. Nobody really got to know him even though he had superficial acquaintances. he didn’t marry. He was married at 28 to a woman that was older, I think, by six years and they made a pact at the beginning not to have children. He lived in that way for a number of years. I think something may have happened with the marriage, something may have happened. Another thing that interestingly may count for something and have some explanatory value. He and his wife had a cat called Curio for 18 years, pretty long time for a cat to survive. But that cat died in 2007 or it was 2008., I think. The only time Williams cried that anyone could remember was then. That may account for something that a kind of desperation or a feeling lost in that way. Another thing about him that I think is important. His mother was apparently stunningly beautiful but not a very warm woman, an English woman, quite distant and cold and as you probably are aware, the way that he and his brother were raised was very odd, indeed. The Father the was the father and the other man that he worked with in nuclear science, these were highly trained and intellectual people. The father had an affair with a particular woman who was the wife of his colleague and that led to divorce and at that point he married that woman Sovka and Williams’s mother then married Mr. Jerry Sovka. And for a number of years Russell and his brother were named Sovka, rather than Williams. Later he went back and took his old name back. He was raised by the mother and a stepfather with the name Sovka for and then the other woman and the father of Williams they raised the three kids of that woman, their stepfather’s children. So there was this cross family business and that must have had some impact. But again it’s an impact on Russell that was not so apparent in the life of his younger brother. We can’t say that because that happened that made him what he is. No, it was a stress, but there had to be other things from a biological sort. That’s why I use the word genetics and constitutional. That were also not right. That made him vulnerable as he crosses the turn of 40, like a midlife crisis where suddenly he’s no longer able to keep from doing certain things that he always wanted to do and he begins to break into the 84, homes of girls and young women when they were not there. In other words, his initial crimes were break-ins when nobody was there to be heard and stealing mountains of lingerie, I mean really serious quantities of panties and bras and what not, before he began to finally rape, which I think corresponds with the time after the cat died, but I could be off by a little bit on that, and then finally the last two murders but the murders were very prolonged where, in one case, pretty much a whole day of torture and raping eight or nine times the same woman, over 24-hour period and filming the whole thing before he finally dispatches her and, of course, it’s obvious when you’ve begun to do that you have to kill the person, because otherwise she’s going to go to the police station and your career is going to be over.’’

Interviewer: ‘’So sorry to interrupt, sir, would that be premeditated, all that torture and everything would he have planned that whole day out, knowing the full well the consequence of his actions, would have to result in her demise her murder?

Dr. Stone: ‘’Yes. Because he dragged in all those photographic equipment with special lighting and fancy cameras and so on, so you can’t do that on the spur of moment. He knew what he was going to do and he treasured these things in the same way that BTK, Dennis Raider in Kansas City would also make tapes and what not. A number of these guys make video tapes and some of them just audio tapes. So he knew what he was about to do and as once you begin to use a knife or begin to throttle up a potential victim and you rape that person, you know you have to kill them. I’ve been down that line with a number of killers that I’ve interviewed…

Interviewer: ‘’Now, sir, also why would they take video is that some sort of trophy or is that some sort of validation that they could look at after for their acts?

Dr. Michael Stone: ‘’Both.’’ 

Interviewer: ‘’Really?’’

Dr. Stone: ‘’Yes. Because don’t forget you make a video. Now you got a very special video that nobody else has, that you can enjoy that scene, if you’re morbid enough to enjoy that sort of thing, over and over again. So sure that, that is part of the purpose of doing all that.’’

Interviewer: ‘’But also by keeping that and taking those videos, would he not run the risk of being caught and therefore, if I extrapolate from that, did he want to be caught and stopped or am I going way off, in a wrong direction pretty lame in, aren’t I?

Dr. Stone: ‘’Well, people often say when one of these serial killers is caught, he must have wanted to be caught. That’s usually a mistake. We like to think that they had no real intention of maintaining that career. They did not want to be caught and that they’re caught only by the massive efforts on the part of the of the police. Don’t forget Gary Ridgeway, the Green River Killer, in Washington state. He was doing his killing and strangling of prostitutes for 18 years and he was not a bright person like Williams. Williams, I’m assuming has a high IQ, Gary had an IQ of 82 and it’s not because he was so clever and smart. It was just that he when you kill strangers, first of all, it’s harder to catch the person, because there’s no connection between a victim and a killer. But Gary kept it going as did BTK for 18 years each. Williams, I’m sure he would have kept going kept going, would have been amassed. They caught him because he did his crimes within a small radius two towns. They had barricades at the roads and everybody that had a certain car that had a certain tire track was looked at and finally that’s how he was caught. It took a lot of clever police to do that. Modern criminal investigative techniques were utilized in order to hasten the process of catching him.’’

Mar 11, 2013 nightfrightshow.com

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